NEW YORK (AP) - The New York Yankees and Minnesota Twins have started trade talks involving Johan Santana.
Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said Monday that discussions are ongoing but it was too early to tell whether they would lead to a deal. He did not detail how far talks had progressed.
"I don't want to get into that at this point, as far as what they want, what we're willing to give and all that," he said. "It's preliminary right now."
Santana is eligible for free agency after the 2008 season, and the Twins have been trying to sign the two-time AL Cy Young Award winner to an extension.
Asked whether the Twins had said they would consider a trade, Steinbrenner responded: "Oh, yeah."
The New York Mets, Boston Red Sox and Los Angeles Dodgers also are thought to be interested in Santana, who is far better than any of the starting pitchers available on the free-agent market.
Santana's agent, Peter Greenberg, has not spoken publicly about his talks with the Twins, who last week lost free-agent center fielder Torii Hunter to the Los Angeles Angels.
Santana, a left-hander who turns 29 in March, has a 93-44 record with a 3.22 ERA in eight major league seasons and is owed $13.25 million next year. Minnesota would want top prospects in any deal and while Steinbrenner previously said he wouldn't trade some of the Yankees' top young pitchers for third baseman Miguel Cabrera, he didn't rule out a deal for a pitcher.
Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said he has received repeated inquiries from teams about Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain and Ian Kennedy.
Santana has a no-trade provision in his contract, and a team acquiring him likely would want to discuss an extension. That means if the teams agreed to a trade, there probably would be a 72-hour window to work out a new contract.
After reaching agreements to re-sign Alex Rodriguez, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada and Jose Molina - deals that are awaiting completion - Steinbrenner said the Yankees have turned their attention to relievers. Cashman has said the team hopes to keep Luis Vizcaino.
"Obviously, I think the big thing for us now is shoring up the bullpen all that we can," Steinbrenner said. "Brian is looking into several different things."
Steinbrenner said Rodriguez likely will take a physical this week.
Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said Monday that discussions are ongoing but it was too early to tell whether they would lead to a deal. He did not detail how far talks had progressed.
"I don't want to get into that at this point, as far as what they want, what we're willing to give and all that," he said. "It's preliminary right now."
Santana is eligible for free agency after the 2008 season, and the Twins have been trying to sign the two-time AL Cy Young Award winner to an extension.
Asked whether the Twins had said they would consider a trade, Steinbrenner responded: "Oh, yeah."
The New York Mets, Boston Red Sox and Los Angeles Dodgers also are thought to be interested in Santana, who is far better than any of the starting pitchers available on the free-agent market.
Santana's agent, Peter Greenberg, has not spoken publicly about his talks with the Twins, who last week lost free-agent center fielder Torii Hunter to the Los Angeles Angels.
Santana, a left-hander who turns 29 in March, has a 93-44 record with a 3.22 ERA in eight major league seasons and is owed $13.25 million next year. Minnesota would want top prospects in any deal and while Steinbrenner previously said he wouldn't trade some of the Yankees' top young pitchers for third baseman Miguel Cabrera, he didn't rule out a deal for a pitcher.
Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said he has received repeated inquiries from teams about Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain and Ian Kennedy.
Santana has a no-trade provision in his contract, and a team acquiring him likely would want to discuss an extension. That means if the teams agreed to a trade, there probably would be a 72-hour window to work out a new contract.
After reaching agreements to re-sign Alex Rodriguez, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada and Jose Molina - deals that are awaiting completion - Steinbrenner said the Yankees have turned their attention to relievers. Cashman has said the team hopes to keep Luis Vizcaino.
"Obviously, I think the big thing for us now is shoring up the bullpen all that we can," Steinbrenner said. "Brian is looking into several different things."
Steinbrenner said Rodriguez likely will take a physical this week.
I'm glad the Yankees finally have there priorities strait. Pitching is the name of the game. If you get Johan without giving up joba or Hughes, its a deal that shouldn't even be an afterthought. just pull the trigger.Then if you can do something about Miguel Cabrera that would involve Hughes i do that as well.This is the first time in a while that the Yankees are targeting a top flight starter that didn't reach his prime yet.no more randy j or rocket kind of guys who once were in there prime. this is a good thing.
Oh one thing i don't get is if the yanx say there focusing on the bullpen then where were they on linebrink??
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i am sure they were on linebrink but they stopped at 3 years
i give everything except jaba and if you really think about it. if its jaba or nothing. you should still give jaba. reason being the team he ends up on will end up signing a huge exstension so its get him now or never. As a fan who cares about the money, so what would you rather have for the next 6 years Johan or Jaba. i know jaba might be as good or maybe even better but i go with johan bec he already has proven it year after year.
The mets clearly cant get him bec they dont have any really awsome pitching prospects. the best they can give who is major league ready is maine and i would still rather phil hughes than maine.
my question is if ur the yankees (or the mets) and the package for haren or johan is the same and once u do one of those deals u cant get the other which one would u trade for? haren is about 2 years younger and he is only due $16.25 mil over the next 3 yrs...and johan will automatically get 25+ a year for the next 7 yrs...so what would u do?
just get johan. he is the best. if you are the yankees forsure johan bec money is not an issue. if you are the mets then you have a point but i still get johan. he brings a whole new feeling and presence to the team.
sam one correction you say Johan didn't hit his prime yet- He did already. He'll be 29 opening day and took a step back last year, giving up 33 homers.
here are his career numbers. It's a shame he got a late start, but it could be a good thing for the future.
2002: 8-6 2.99 era.108IP,84 H,137 K
2003:12-3 3.07 era.158IP,127H,169 K
2004:20-6 2.61 era.228Ip,156H 265 K
2005:16-7 2.87 era.232IP, 180H 238K
2006:19-6 2.77 Era.234IP 186H 245K
2007:15-13 3.33 Era 219IP 183H 235
This guy is still AWESOME but he won't get better ( besides for wins cause better lineup).
I only would hold back Joba, UNLESS , and ONLY if the Red Sox are gonna get him- then ill trade anyone.
THE SOX CANNOT GET SANTANA NO MATTER WHAT!
if the sox get santana they should just pick up their rings opening day and save us all the time of watching the whole season.
this just in tom macarthy has left the mets and is rejoining the phillies he used to broadcast their games from 01 to 05 and now he is back there so no more "eeeaaaaassssillllyyyy" or "it's gone"
if you think about it. the yankees really did a lot this offseason. i know they are all resignings but Arod,Mo,Posada and probably Pettite and now maybe Santana. that is pretty good.
On the other hand the mets that had the biggest collapse in history did nothing. Ok estrada and castilla big deal. Dont get me wrong getting rid of MOTA IS huge but they should try to throw in anybody to get santana.
i just started getting used to mcarthy at the end of the year. i know it wont happen but i wish Gary Cohen would go back in the radio booth with howie rose and sign up ted robinson for the Sny team. Then again that sny group had a great time. but i hope they get someone good and dont stick ed coleman in the booth full time. i like him for what he does but not as a play by play man.
you know what the mets shouldnt waste their time trying to get santana bec they just dont have enough.
They should go wild and get cabrera and put him in right feild. give up whoever they have to
the mets 08 schedule has been released
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/schedule/tentative.jsp?c_id=nym&year=2008
they start out on april 1st at the marlins and the last opening day at shea is april 8th vs the phillies
HOME HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE
Opening Day, April 8 vs. Phillies
Torre and the Dodgers, May 29-June 1
Subway Series, June 27-29
National League Champion Rockies, July 11-13
Final Regular Season Game at Shea, September 28 vs. Marlins
the mets play the al west this year in interleague
and strange thing is the season ends on sept 28th...and begins...well if the mets first game is on the 1st vs the marlins then mlb prob has an earlier game on that sunday march 30th...strange becuz this past year mlb had to postpone alot of games due to bad weather so you would think they would push it off one week later then it is now...last year the mets started on april 1st and that was the early game...alright lets see what happens
According to a ESPN.com report, ‘citing rival executives,’ the Cubs are willing to trade RHP Mark Prior if a contract cannot be negotiated.
The Cubs have until December 12th to tender a 2008 contract to Prior and would prefer to sign him to a one-year deal rather than go to arbitration.
However, Prior, who is expected to pitch in 2008 following shoulder surgery last April, may prefer to sign a long term deal.
He has pitched in just 57 games over the last four seasons.
stay away from him stay far far away!!!
prior is in his last year of arbitration
Anyone who thinks twice about giving up phil hughes in a package for johan is an utter fool.
the likelyhood of hughes becoming an all-star caliber pitcher is about 30%. Don't forget this is a guy who at the age of 21 pulled a hamstring in the 7th inning of a no-hitter and missed 4 months because of it. there are no guarentees in baseball and that applies with pitchers more than anything. There are many pitchers out there that are more talented than hughes and were more highly touted (as prospects) than he is that fell on their faces because of ineffectiveness or injury. Just look at the greatest pitcher is college history (AKA Mark prior) as an example. Max Kellerman was yelling today how you can't trade hughes for johan because (and these were his words) hughes can have a better year than Johan THIS year. If you want to hear a professinal radio personality get embarresed regarding their baseball knowledge and analysis tomorrow, listen to his show between 10:00 and 10:45 tomorrow morning and listen up for Avi in the car.
i will be listening
Yankee Player To Be Paid $45.5 Million For Season In 2014
Think about it.
Alex Rodriguez will receive $6 million when he reaches each of five milestones: the career home run totals of Willie Mays (660), Babe Ruth (714), Henry Aaron (755) and Barry Bonds (762), and when he breaks the record. This is above his annual salary of $27.5 million.
A-Rod should reach 660 homers in 2011. And, he should reach 714 homers in 2012.
But, come 2014, during that year, A-Rod should be reaching his 755th, 762nd and 763rd career homeruns in the season.
So, when you add $6 million times three to the $27.5 million, Alex Rodriguez will earn $45.5 million in 2014.
Some payday, huh?
I think what sammy meant about johan is that he's still in his prime and can maintain this level of effectiveness for at least 5 more years. Unlike Rotten Roger, the Bad Unit, or Kevin Bomb, I mean Brown who were all in the twilight of their careers when the Yankees got them. Boys, as Yankees fans we’ve NEVER HAD A PITCHER THIS GOOD!! The spike in the amount of homers given up is a bit of a concern to me but none of his other numbers dropped off. His K’s per 9, his hits to innings pitched and his BBs were all at the same level of his previous years. which leads we to believe the spike in homers was a fluke or just a bad year for him.
i would even trade jaba for johan
Pete Caldera takes a stab at what it might cost the Yankees to get Johan Santana:
IF Robinson Cano, RHP Phil Hughes, RHP Jeff Karstens and RHP Tyler Clippard for LHP Johan Santana and IF Matt Tolbert.
OF Melky Cabrera, RHP Joba Chamberlain, RHP Jeff Marquez and IF Wilson Betemit for LHP Johan Santana and LHP Glen Perkins.
RHP Ian Kennedy, OF Melky Cabrera, OF Jose Tabata, RHP Ross Ohlendorf and RHP Allan Horne for LHP Johan Santana.
I think most Yankees fans can live with that last one - although Caldera notes the Twins may not go for it. As far as the other two suggestions, well, if that's what it takes, I think the Yankees should pass on getting Santana.
"Cano & Hughes" or "Melky & Joba" is too steep a price, in my opinion.
Avi got on!!! but he didn't get a chance to respond to Max
i missed it what did he say!
Melky and jaba i would do. Cano is maybe to much.
hey max s and abie- would you trade reyes and gomez for santana and nathan?
yes i would do it max as long as santana signs a nice extension
maybe i am saying it bec reyes was so bad at the end of the year. but i thought about it reyes is a very good player and maybe will be great. i know he is home grown and is very exciting to watch when he is in a groove but you cant lose site at what makes you win the world series. THAT IS PITCHING. i know its not an easy thing to do bec the mets have been making reyes and wright the face of the franchise but beleive me if they made that trade and johan has 20 wins and brings them a ring we will all forget and not give a dam about reyes.
With all that being said i know he probably wont get traded and i still do like him a lot as a player. He is very good defensively and if he learns to get out of his slumps faster he will be great. The way he creates runs with his legs is great to watch
Bottom line you do what you got to do to get the best picher in baseball on your team.
ofcourse their are limits but not many
The only guy i know that has no limits at all is Max N and you all know what i mean
so you wouldn't require nathan in the deal? how about reyes and gomez for only santana?
you're possibly giving up rickey henderson( reyes maybe one day) and carl crawford( gomez-b you never know) for one year of santana.
it's alot
this dealis close to happening......Matt Garza, Jason Bartlett, and Juan Rincon to the Rays for Delmon Young, Brendan Harris, and Jason Pridie
and the mets got brian stokes from the d-rays for cash
if they dont agree for an extension then i wouldnt do it. ofcourse i wouldnt do it for just one year.all these trades are knowing he will take a big extension.
i am not so sold on gomez he could be good but i wouldnt hold on to him. if you can get back anybody pretty good i would trade gomez. Reyes you are right about he might be a ricky henderson type player but we are talking about JOHAN SANTANA the best pitcher in baseball
stokes throws 95-96 mph with a 83mph changeup....
as for santana the mets should offer them anything but reyes and wright...and beltran has a no trade clause and they wouldnt want him becuz of his contract ...they wouldnt pay torii why would they pay him (mike and the maddog were talking about beltran for santana...but thats stupid)....
and max sutton relax with omar he knows what he is doing the yeankees have made the most movement thisoffseason and all they did was resign some guys...the angels and phillies are the only real dealers so far so relax....trust omar if he cant get value for his prospects then he will holdonto them and look forward to the monster freeagent year in 09...most reporters are saying that the twins will hold onto him until the trade deadline becuz they dont want to deal him and then say when the season starts that they made the worst trade in mlb history....
I think some major newspaper should hire Abe as a Mets beat writer
From the Star Ledger -
To acquire pitcher Johan Santana, the Yankees are willing to consider trading center fielder Melky Cabrera as well as one of their top young pitchers.
But right-hander Joba Chamberlain and second baseman Robinson Cano would be off-limits, according to a person with knowledge of the trade talks who asked not to be named because the discussions are in the preliminary stages.
One person familiar with the situation, who asked not to be named because he is not authorized to speak for the teams involved, said he expects the competition for Santana to come down to the Yankees and Red Sox. The Red Sox, he said, might be willing to meet Minnesota's need for a young center fielder with Jacoby Ellsbury but are not willing to move pitcher Clay Buchholz.
The person said the Dodgers could get involved if they decide not to move young talent for Florida third baseman Miguel Cabrera and that the Mets do not seem to have the type of players the Twins seek.
check out this link yankee fans...
its called save the big three
http://riveraveblues.com/2007/11/28/get-your-save-the-big-three-t-shirts/
a couple of things.....
In terms of guaranteed money, Cordero’s contract is the largest ever for a reliever and it’s also the largest free agent signing in Reds history.”
and...
The Mets will open their 2008 season against the Marlins at Dolphin Stadium on Monday March 31st, not April 1st as originally scheduled.
Steven A. Smith bumped into Torii Hunter at the Lakers game yesterday and had quite a conversation, not verbatim...
Steven A.: so torii, where do you think Johan is gonna end up? Because I heard that he has a no trade clause.
Torii: He's gonna end up in ny.
Steven A: Boston and the Mets are also showing alot of interest in him?
Torii: There's no way he's goin to Boston. He loves ny. He'll be very happy goin to the yanks. He'll be equally happy goin to the mets. he doesn't want to be in boston, he wants to be in ny.he wants to be around his peeps.
Steven A: oh really, Is this what you think or is this what you know?
Torii: yo bro, listen to what i'm tellin you!!
now that minesotta has received delmon young and the minor leaguer pridie who spent half of 2007 in AAA doin pretty well, they have filled the void left by torii hunter.
Now, do they really need melky cabrera in a deal for yohan?
Do they even need to trade yohan right now, because they just traded a good young pitcher in Garza, and they just plugged up their outfield...
They are very short in the infield and I don't think the yanks are ready to part with cano. Wilson betemit will probably be involved in the deal but only as a 4th possible player. They also won't really need jonny damon or hideki matsui in the outfield.
What other options can the yanks present...say they give any number of young pitching prospects, and what else (any position players)??
you make a good point mike....but i believe that now the twins are looking for 2 or more pitching prospects for johan maybe also a mid level position player prospect..so if im the yankees i say hughes kennedy melky tobata and jackson and the deal is done....and you might not have to deal melky but they say that minnesota s high on him and if hes a deal breaker then throw him in....becuz like u said mike the ydont have to trade him now...but if u want him opening day then you have to give up all this guys..becuz they could say no to you now and make you wait till the trade deadlime...and all the while make the yanks get nervous that boston might get him....amybe forcing you to pull the trigger on the deal b4 the season starts....
2 things:
The Red Sox may have taken the lead in the Santana trade sweepstakes with an offer of Coco Crisp, Jed Lowry, Jon Lester and Justin Masterson, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports.
and...
According to the Adam Rubin from the Daily News, he has ‘heard through the grapevine that the Mets have acquired a minor-league C Ralph Henriquez from the Astros.
In 103 games in Low-A last season, the 20–year-old Henriquez hit .185 with seven HR and 86 strike outs.
He was selected by the Astros out of high school during the second round of the 2005 amateur entry draft.
He has never appeared among Baseball America’s list of Houston’s top 10 prospects.
The yankees are talking about getting santana and almost there. and abie the only thing the mets can talk about is some guy from single a that cant even bat a 200.
The mets are supposed to go after Miggy Cabrera. I understand he santana deal is a real long shot for them. But the cabrera one is realistic they have the right prospects for the marlins.
but what will it cost to get him every prospect we have...let the yankees trade all their prospects for one guy...honestly im thinking just keep these guys this year and even wait til the trade deadline becuz if milledge and pelfrey can do well during the season then their trade value will go up and right now its at its all time lowest value...so i say wait...cabrera,haren,bedard and even santana will still be there at the deadline...
Abe, I commend your thorough research, getting info from all angles of media coverage.....
Can we please just slow down with the sox for a minute here.....Do you seriously think the sox have put up the best offer, and if so, do you seriously think the players you mentioned are even good???
Do you just don't want to see the yanks end up with Santana??
Coco Crispies is an average CF at best. Have you looked at his career #'s?? His #'s progressed nicely while with cleveland and when he was traded to boston to make room for some kid called Grady, I thought they were crazy because I seriously thought CoCo was gonna be great for them for many years. Ultimately Grady Sizemore is one of the better CF in baseball. Nice job Cleveland!!
With Boston, Coco has struggled mightily, his two seasons were totally atrocious. His #'s have fallen to below average for a CF. He has not shown any signs of breaking out of his two year slump.
He was even benched in the W.S. after going 5/31 hitting in the first two rounds.
Ok, done with Coco...
Jed Lowrie is a SS and spent the last third of the season in AAA. He did awesome in AA and is now doing pretty well in AAA, but nowhere nearly as good as in AA and nowhere near Major League ready. He turns 23 in March.
Jon Lester had a very good minor league career. He was AA Eastern league pitcher of the year in '05.
In "06, he was great in AAA and had a 4.76 era in 15 MLB starts.
In '07, coming back from cancer, he had a 3.89 era in 14 AAA starts. He went 4-0, 4.57 era in 12 games (11 starts).
He will be 24 in January.
Lester will be a very good major league pitcher.
Masterson is an average minor league pitcher. He does not seem to be anything special.
In '07, he went 4-3, 4.34 ERA in 10 AA starts.
He turns 23 in March.
In Conclusion...
CoCo = bust CF
Lester = great LHP
Lowrie = very good almost great SS
Masterson = nothing special RHP
i used to listen to you abie but you were the one fan that stayed calmlast year saying dont worry they will end up in the playoffs anyway. Look what happened. i am not saying to just do something and not be smart about it. but they should do soemtyhing. And Cabrera is awsome and i think is better than milledge gomez or anyone else the mets have to trade to get him. so it wouldnt be like a kasmir deal. They got back Crap for kasmir. Nobody argues that Cabrera is a top 10 player in the league. Your laid back attitude is good to an extent but to much is no good. Everyone is always scared to make that big trade. When you get the big player in their prime i say do it.
What if the Mets held on to preston Wilson bec he was supposed to be great. Then they wouldnt of gotten Piazza.
bottom line most of the time prospects end up being suspects so if you can get a proven great do it.
the piazza deal was a no brainer...what i am saying is that u do make these trades but do it when u can get max value for them do it when milledge and heilman gets you a cabrera and not when milledge pelfrey heilman and fernando martinez = cabrera....be smart about it
the only way i can see it from the other point of view...is that next year free agent class is huge..so y not deal all ur prospects now and then next year sign whatever position u need
right on max. Cabrera is only 24- the best is definitely yet to come. Hitting behind Neltran, Wright,or Arod, he could realisticaly hit .340 with 45 homers and 150 rbi's NEXT YEAR.
Mike i agree with you, the ball is in the Yankees' court.
If the Sox end up with Santana, It would only be cause Cashman let it happen by being to stingy.
The Yankees have double the young talent than the Sox. We have Four blue chip pitchers, and some good young 3-5 rotaion guys like ohlendorf, desalvo, clippard, etc. We have 3-5 good young hitters. And we've got more cash.
There is no way the sox should have Johan Santana in their rotation. NO WAY!!!!
Also abie- It would be nice if you could just paraphrase a little instead of ctr.c lol
I FOUND THIS:
Kevin Goldstein offers his list of the Yankees Top 11 Prospects:
Five-Star Prospects
1. Joba Chamberlain, RHP
Four-Star Prospects
2. Ian Kennedy, RHP
3. Austin Jackson, OF
4. Jose Tabata, OF
5. Alan Horne, RHP
Three-Star Prospects
6. Dellin Betances, RHP
7. Jesus Montero, C
8. Andrew Brackman, RHP
9. Edwar Ramirez, RHP
10. Kelvin DeLeon, OF
Two-Star Prospects
11. Humberto Sanchez, RHP
Just Missing: Frank Cervelli, C; Jeff Marquez, RHP; Ross Ohlendorf, RHP; Brad Suttle, 3B
Andrew Brackman, who will not throw a professional pitch until 2009, at #8? Edwar Ramirez at #9? Humberto Sanchez at #11?
Maybe the Yankees farm system is not as good as some say...if this is what is the best of the bunch.
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. edwar is overrated, ohlendorf underrated!!
Sometimes I wonder if these writers are seriously stupid, or do they just want to see how many people believe their trash?
and although hughes pitched last year, he belongs on the list if this list is meant to be trade-bait rating
By the way-I think he d' rays made a mistake... they should have gotten santana for delmon young, and then gotten hughes kennedy and melky!! They really errored here.
Kevin Goldstein write for baseball america and baseball prospectus so i think he might now a lil more than me and you...relax that ego for a sec max n and go back to ur belly dancer...
I dissagree with him. Maybe he's a red sox fan trying to convince the Twins, or maybe the Sox are paying him. Come on!! anyone who saw phlendorf pitch in september would agree with me!
hey max n has his own website abie he isnt to shabby either
Next season can be a radical norm to what Yankee fans are not used to.
We may have 3 rookie pitchers in our rotation!!!
And this is to start the season, yet we will probably end up with 4 rookies in the rotation because we know Mussina, if he is there instead of Pettitte, will get injured as some point. Injuries are a part of the game.
Last season, at least we had Wang, Pettite, Mussina, Clemens, and a random rookie 5th. It wasn't the same because we always had Wang and Pettite that we knew we would win those games.
As it stands, we're leaning on Wang for a win every time out and then it's all up in the air!!
Although I am super excited to have these AWESOME young pitchers next season, I am TOTALLY SCARED because imaging we go through a similar injury beginning of the season just like last year!!!!!!
Assuming Pettitte's not coming back....Without Johan Santana, I believe the yanks are nothing short of a very unstable rotation for next season.
This may be a little pessimistic of me, but although I am smart enough to look long term, I really really really want to WIN NOW!!!
As someone mentioned at some point...Johan will serve both short term and 4-5 years down the road. We can always sign back our young guys traded when they become free agents 5-6 years from now or we can go around in the circle again and do this trade all over again when the twins want to trade their young pitching 4 years from now because of the same reason now...they will not anticipate paying these guys to stay.
The circle of baseball is complete.
P.S. Abe, those save our young 3 t-shirts were great!
one interesting jaba fact:
During the regular season, big league hitters facing Chamberlain with runners in scoring position went 0-for-16 with nine strikeouts.
found this thought it might be interesting:
top 10 contracts in all of sports:
#1 - Alex Rodriguez - NY Yankees - $275 Million for 10 years
#2 - Alex Rodriguez - Texas Rangers - $252 Million for 10 years - Signed in 2001
#3 - Derek Jeter - New York Yankees - $189 Million for 10 years - Signed in 2001
#4 - Michael Vick - Atlanta Falcons - $167 Million for 10 years - Signed in 2005
#5 - Manny Ramirez - Boston Red Sox - $160 Million for 8 years - Signed in 2001
#6 - Todd Helton - Colorado Rockies - $141.5 Million for 11 years - Signed in 2001
#7 - Kobe Bryant - LA Lakers - $136.4 Million for 7 years - Signed in 2004
#8 - Alfonso Soriano - Chicago Cubs - $136 Million for 8 years - Signed in 2007
#9 - Peyton Manning - Indianapolis Colts - $132 Million for 7 years - Signed in 2005
#10 - 5 way tie at 126 million over 7 years
Barry Zito, Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O'Neal, Vernon Wells and Rashard Lewis
teams and scouts are now looking at carlos gomez as the next jimmy rollins in the outfield....i always saw him as endy chavez...they are saying he has more value than milledge!
is gomez for blanton a good trade for the mets?...and will they have to give up more?
first of all, your comparing apple to oranges with gomez and rollins. SS and CF.
Blanton's #'s are pretty impressive for an AL pitcher in only 3 full seasons. I think the Mets will have to part with some more substance than just gomez. he's still considered prospectus.
i would like to take time out and say thank you to the creator of this blog sammy sutton eventhough nobody here knows ur new home address in bklyn...and max n doesnt know how to make a speech.....i just wanna send some love ur way MMWAH!
i read this article from beginning to end..it it great any baseball fan should read it..
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/
story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3132761
the yanks should sign pettitte and give him a pro-rated contract that allows him to start pitching May 1st so he has some additional time to rest this offseason, and he can finish stronger because of 40 less innings pitched on his arm.
His Won AL pitcher of the Month for August.
this would translate to september and october when we need it most for next year.
in the above link first copy and paste the first line and then copy and paste the 2nd line next to it
Thank you abe for your kind words.
Guess what ???I dont even know my own address.Brooklyn is all the same crap.
Im debating if i should make a new post or let this one go to over 100 blogs....what should i do
Not only is this Blog on pace to break 100 but I bet that there already 20-30 blogs with at least 10 lines each!!!
omar minaya said in an interview that jorge sosa will be in the bullpen this year and el duque will be a starter this year...is it just me or should their roles be reversed?....ur thoughts..
knicks suck!!! rangers are awesome!!!
a thought on the free agent class...we are seeing now that teams like the royals and reds are signing free agents to big contracts....this is all possible due to revenue sharing and the luxury tax being paid to these teams....i hate to say this...but it frustrates me....becuz the only reason y they are spending money now is becuz bud selig is on top of them becuz now they have money being given to them by theleague and the league is watching them so they have to spend it even if it means overpaying for someone liken cordero...is this fair that they can overpay and are being "forced" to do so?
At first i was just going to write for the sake of help getting to 1 hundred but now i realy have what to say.
Abie i think Sosa and el duque should both be in the pen. Duque is to old and cant do it as a starter but might be great out of the pen he definatly has the makeup for it. And Sosa had a good blip as a starter but i still think he is better out of the pen.
Theirstarting 5 can be Pedro,maine,Perez,Pelfry and some new guy i hope Omar can pull off. I someone is hurt then you go to either so, elduque or humber.
And about the smaller market teams spending even if its them getting forced i like it. Makes it more fun.
Oh Yeah THe Knicks really do suck.
timo perez is a free agent...the mets should sign so we could "hop" right into the world series again!
eddie c said on the fan yesterday that he want to be the mets play by play guy next year....h-ll no!!!
i was just thinking about something the mets don't have to worry about how good the al is until the world series....
understanding how big of a collapse they went through last year.. mets fans have to understand that it will not happen again..even with the same team....and brett myers is the 2nd most overrated player in baseball right now (jeter is 1st,admit it yankee fans)..so relax me and max n went through the best pitchers in baseball and we named about 15 in the al and about 6 in the nl (penny,peavy,oswalt,hudson,smoltz,hamels)..so the al is still much better then the nl and understanding that omar doesnt have to make the killer deal that max sutton wants...he can relax and still make the playoffs and w.s. this year with the team he has....someone here please tell me who r the best teams in the nl and y they r better then the mets...
OFCOURSE HE WANTS TO DO IT. but i pray they dont gige it to him. we are talking new york they should hire a really good experianced guy who grew up in new york a met fan. Not like the yankees who have a high pitched annoying girl who beleive it or not is a boston red sox fan. and by the way ed coleman is a red sox fan too. Maybe it would be ok if he was great as a play by play guy but he isnt. He has tmes when he makes a great call but over all i dont like the way he calls the game.
amen!
i was just informed by max n and abe dwek about the trade of milledge for brian shneider and ryan church. the worst part of the trade is that the mets went from having a jewish right feilder to a guy named church now.
I guess they didnt think milledge was going to amount to anything and the open market must not of really wanted him. Or Omar just made a terrible moove. I dont know what to think. Now what do they do with estrada who i like better then shneider anyway.
the only thing i can think of is that now omar can take church and swing him in a deal for a front line starter and that he has more trade value then milledge did...but other than that i cant go to a mets game where church or schneider will be playing i just cant root for these guys...they were on a team the last few years that has been the laughing stock of baseball and they suck they are pieces of sh-t...and the fact we could have gotten manny 2 years ago and oswalt last year and now we are left with this...i am ready to denounce myself as a mets fan....i am in shock..and i threw in my mouth listening to this news....
breaking news : omar minaya has just been fired as mets gm
oh wait im sorry i was dreaming
i've been trying to text this message to my fellow mets fans but my fingers just cant type it...my hands are shaking just trying to type it on my phone.....
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
hello mets fans u have entered the twilight zone.....dana nana nana nana etc....im flippin out man help me!!!
omar minaya is just trying to get every player that he drafted on the expos....but the only problem is...is that there are no expos/nats fans but there are people that care about the team here in ny!!!! f u omar
i apologize sam
if u got to metsblog.com they broke the story at about 12:55pm and then the next thing he writes is about newsday saying that the #7 train will have express service during mets games...am i the only one that freaking out..please tell me im normal...to everyone else is this nothing...did we just get milledge mixed up with ruben gotay....becuz thats all i would trade for those 2...
we could have gotten melky and clippard/betemit
max s. now im on the edge...if ur in traffic on the george washington bridge its becuz of me
ken rosenthal said that they offered them estrada free of charge to the nats but they said no
wait we still need pitching! we couldnt even get any of their junky pitchers.....ahh!!
Q & A with jayson stark
How awful is the Milledge for Schneider/Church trade for the Mets...and how great is it for the Phillies that 2 years ago Milledge would have been the centerpiece for the Mets getting a top starting pitcher and now he got them an anti-semetic 4th outfielder and a catcher who can't hit!
SportsNation Jayson Stark: (1:17 PM ET ) I'm going to ignore the second part of that question and just evaluate this trade. The Mets have been looking for a defensive-minded catcher who could lead a staff, and Brian Schneider does that as well as anyone. And Ryan Church is a better player than you're giving him credit for. He's better than a fourth outfielder, even though he might be more a 5-day-a-week kind of player than a 7-day -a-week kind of player. And Milledge, frankly, turned out to be overrated. HIs value had plummeted. For a team trying to win in the short term, like the Mets, I totally understand this trade, Now let's sit back and see how good Milledge turns out to be.
HEY SAM THIS POST HAS 92 COMMENTS WHAT HAPPENED YOUR SLACKING ITS BEEN 3 DAYS WITH OUT ANY NEW POSTS.
HI ABE I KNOW YOU MISSED CAPS THE LAST FEW DAYS BUT I READ EVERYTHING DAILY JUST SOMETIMES DONT HAVE TIME OR WHAT TO SAY.
BY THE WAY I HEARD CHURCH GOES TO SHUL....
TODAY TROY PERCIVAL SIGNED WITH THE DEVIL RAYS 2 YRS 8 MIL. I UNDERSTAND THIS GUY IS 38 YRS OLD BUT LAST YR HE WAS 3-0 WITH 1.80 ERA..WHY DIDNT THE YANKS LOOK INTO SIGNING THIS GUY?? WITH JOBA POSSIBLY MOVING UP TO A STARTER HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT AS A SET-UP MAN FOR MO.I DONT KNOW BUT I THINK THE RAYS GOT A BARGAIN.
wow a yankees fan that wants troy percival i never thought i'd see he day
BOTTOM LINE IS IF THE GUY IS GOOD YOU GO AFTER HIM AND GET HIM THE YANX MISSED OUT HERE..SHABBAT SHALOM GUYS
i tried to get the last blog b4 shabbat started but the CAPS LOCK MAN beat me
i have calmed down a bit and now i believe that it is livable...i would like to thank the nypd for the parachute....anyway.... if the mets trade gomez humber and kevin mulvey for haren then i will ok the milledge trade...i dont believe that milledge would produce much this year and to say that church's stats will be better or equal to milledge's over the next 2 years isnt crazy....this might make sense if u take into account that this is pedro's delgado's alou's and el duque's last year....so last cahnce to win is now... which means that in that 09 class of free agents the mets will sign more than 2 of the big free agents to fill those holes...and exhale....
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i apologize but i couldn't help myself
ABIE YOUR OFFICIALY THE CRAZIEST GUY I KNOW I LOVE YOU
JOHAN!!
Giving up hughes hurts but this is a MUST!!! hughes, mediocre melky and alberto gonzalez is the right trade. i'd rather give gonzalez than horne. by the way i don't like kennedy - he's overrated. i'd rather give kennedy, austin jackson and jose tabata than just hughes.
mwah! CAPS MAN
i need a new topic sam iam (scooby doo) where r u?(
AVI ONLY I CAN WRITE IN CAPS...JOHAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
according to reports the yankees have offered melky hughes and kennedy...WOW!
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